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    Quote Originally Posted by TH-64 View Post
    Makes sense, but the "it looks cool" factor is very important. LOL. I did the BD intercooler, pipes, and horn,along with a GDP grid delete. Prolly didn't need any of it. Hahaha. The VGT is always the limiting factor. Big horsepower is a ways down the road for me.
    Speaking of "cool factors", I love your truck!!

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    Gale is so full of crap. Don't fall into the banks trap. Trust me. I have lots of experience with defiance of physics. As an engineer and long time owner of these Cummins, knowing them intimately, in and out, you'd be better with a shibby intake. I saw the flow tests, independently done by one of the magazines a few years back. Shibby out performed all of them and is the least known. I actually did the shibby BETA back in 08 with Kurt. Tested the EGR and Non EGR intakes, grid delete, and high flow grid heater


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaraco View Post
    Gale is so full of crap. Don't fall into the banks trap. Trust me. I have lots of experience with defiance of physics. As an engineer and long time owner of these Cummins, knowing them intimately, in and out, you'd be better with a shibby intake. I saw the flow tests, independently done by one of the magazines a few years back. Shibby out performed all of them and is the least known. I actually did the shibby BETA back in 08 with Kurt. Tested the EGR and Non EGR intakes, grid delete, and high flow grid heater
    I hear you. Thank you. I should have left the Banks stuff out of this thread. It was distracting. I mainly wanted to discuss the value of adding an aftermarket intake manifold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskiebri View Post
    I hear you. Thank you. I should have left the Banks stuff out of this thread. It was distracting. I mainly wanted to discuss the value of adding an aftermarket intake manifold.
    You will definitely experience an improvement with the performance and economy by changing the horn and deleting the EGR. If you don't want to delete the EGR and still want to improve the flow, Shibby has a horn for that too. Talk to Ray or the Dude about it. They are both Shibby dealers. The ultimate would be deleting the grid heater and going with the remote. You'll definitely feel the difference.


    2003- 3500 RWD Automatic.
    S & B intake, BD Intercooler, Pusher Air Horn, MM3 Double R Tuning, Turbo Timer, electric Flex-a-lite fans, FASS 95,
    50 HP tips, upgrade to 351 turbo, 3.42 gears, Twin air compressors, air bags, Remote dual oil filters, Hellwig sway bar, Front Winch. Home made Fuel Heater, BD Exhaust brake with Torque Lock. Tons of TLC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaraco View Post
    Gale is so full of crap. Don't fall into the banks trap. Trust me. I have lots of experience with defiance of physics. As an engineer and long time owner of these Cummins, knowing them intimately, in and out, you'd be better with a shibby intake. I saw the flow tests, independently done by one of the magazines a few years back. Shibby out performed all of them and is the least known. I actually did the shibby BETA back in 08 with Kurt. Tested the EGR and Non EGR intakes, grid delete, and high flow grid heater
    There's always nut huggers who think that the most well known or biggest names mean the best. I hate Banks. If they were 1/4 of the price might be ok using them

    Shibby is one of the best for these trucks hands down


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaraco View Post
    You will definitely experience an improvement with the performance and economy by changing the horn and deleting the EGR. If you don't want to delete the EGR and still want to improve the flow, Shibby has a horn for that too. Talk to Ray or the Dude about it. They are both Shibby dealers. The ultimate would be deleting the grid heater and going with the remote. You'll definitely feel the difference.
    Yes indeed bro Banks is a total BS master

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaraco View Post
    Gale is so full of crap. Don't fall into the banks trap. Trust me. I have lots of experience with defiance of physics. As an engineer and long time owner of these Cummins, knowing them intimately, in and out, you'd be better with a shibby intake. I saw the flow tests, independently done by one of the magazines a few years back. Shibby out performed all of them and is the least known. I actually did the shibby BETA back in 08 with Kurt. Tested the EGR and Non EGR intakes, grid delete, and high flow grid heater
    Thank you bro for putting in your input I effing can’t stand Banks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopkc View Post
    I'll go one further. The CAI is a negative. Between zero gains, and the extra dirt in your engine, they are a constant drain. Here's my turbo hose that I changed out. It had dirt deposits on the walls that were thick enough to flake off when scraped with a fingernail. Stock intake is going back on.



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    I'm dieing to know.... Was this just an exposed cone filter on the end of the turbo inlet or a full aftermarket system?

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    Fully enclosed "top of the line" CAI. I wouldn't suck hot air out of my engine bay, that has never made sense to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Power247 View Post
    I'm dieing to know.... Was this just an exposed cone filter on the end of the turbo inlet or a full aftermarket system?

    Greg
    2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
    2016 | Heartland Pioneer | DS310
    Man that just sucks bro

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