Scared and confused about deleting and tuning

**Sunflake** · 02-12-2017

So I've never owned a diesel before so please be patient with me. All of these EPA regulations make me nervous. Like you can't ever remove the emissions stuff and if you do dealers won't take one in on trade. The only thing I've done is unplugged the egr. Does this increase the chances of plugging the cooler? Can you put a tuner on without deleting and just disable? How much does deleting the egr system and removing the DPF cost? Truck has 143k on it and is stock.

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**stoweboy250** · 02-12-2017

Originally Posted by Sunflake

So I've never owned a diesel before so please be patient with me. All of these EPA regulations make me nervous. Like you can't ever remove the emissions stuff and if you do dealers won't take one in on trade. The only thing I've done is unplugged the egr. Does this increase the chances of plugging the cooler? Can you put a tuner on without deleting and just disable? How much does deleting the egr system and removing the DPF cost? Truck has 143k on it and is stock.

Delete will be the best thing you could do. What year? For 13+ MM3/race me about 1500 plus tunes and exhaust. EFI live around the same I believe. No need to worry about anything at 140k miles.

Deleting will make it preform better all around. I'm no expert but delete mine around 5-6k miles and wouldn't have done it any other way.

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**Andrew67** · 02-12-2017

I can safely say it does indeed clog the EGR cooler. We have a 2010 truck that is closing in on 400k miles and it has been nothing but golden. I unplugged the EGR right around 50k miles and ran stock with the check engine light for a good 200k miles. My original DPF finally gave up around 250k miles, it gave no warning other than I took a hit to my mileage, and you could tell it was trying to Regen continuously. I stuck a delete pipe on it and threw a stock with deletes race me tune on the truck and haven't looked back. Running unplugged all of those miles, when I finally did take the EGR cooler off of the truck you wouldn't have believed what the inside looked like. The crossover tube was especially blocked.

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**Power247** · 02-12-2017

Your profile says you have an '07. This means things will be a bit cheaper to accomplish than on the newer trucks. You are lucky that you can just unplug the EGR with only a CEL and run without power being derated.

You are right to be concerned about the EPA laws. Especially if you live in an area that performs emissions inspections or travel through strict areas. It is best to do some research before making any decisions.

Greg
2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
2016 | Heartland Pioneer | DS310

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**Sunflake** · 02-12-2017

"Especially if you live in an area that performs emissions inspections or travel through strict areas."

Currently in my county there is no emission testing but you never know if that will change. So I would have to keep everything in case I needed to put it back. Anybody have to put all the stuff back on for testing? How
big of PITA is that?

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**HKBIGDADDYDIESELDAN** · 02-12-2017

Originally Posted by Sunflake

"Especially if you live in an area that performs emissions inspections or travel through strict areas."

Currently in my county there is no emission testing but you never know if that will change. So I would have to keep everything in case I needed to put it back. Anybody have to put all the stuff back on for testing? How
big of PITA is that?

Once you delete and remove everything you are not gonna want to put any of that emissions bs back on

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**Power247** · 02-13-2017

Originally Posted by Sunflake

"Especially if you live in an area that performs emissions inspections or travel through strict areas."

Currently in my county there is no emission testing but you never know if that will change. So I would have to keep everything in case I needed to put it back. Anybody have to put all the stuff back on for testing? How
big of PITA is that?

I only removed the DPF and NOx from the exhaust and replaced them with a delete pipe. Everything that came off the truck is in the shop in case I need to put it back on for some reason. I left the EGR installed and just let the tuner disable it. I expect it should take me about 2 hours to get back to stock if needed.

Greg
2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
2016 | Heartland Pioneer | DS310

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**ChasManDo** · 02-15-2017

Originally Posted by Power247

I only removed the DPF and NOx from the exhaust and replaced them with a delete pipe. Everything that came off the truck is in the shop in case I need to put it back on for some reason. I left the EGR installed and just let the tuner disable it. I expect it should take me about 2 hours to get back to stock if needed.

Greg
2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
2016 | Heartland Pioneer | DS310

Does the tuner disable the EGR automatically through unseen programming or do you select something on screen to shut the EGR stuff off?

Thanks...

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**Power247** · 02-15-2017

Originally Posted by ChasManDo

Does the tuner disable the EGR automatically through unseen programming or do you select something on screen to shut the EGR stuff off?

Thanks...

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**The DodgeFather** · 02-12-2017

I feel the same sunflake and that playing a big part in my wait . But my concern is more my factory warranty . I would love to have my truck deleted and all the goodies . I will say If I had the opportunity to do it today I would . I respect my vehicle and maintain well and respect it that I feel I'd be ok .

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