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    Anyone Have Any Questions About The New 5.0L Titan Cummins?

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    ... The engine I worked on was on a stand and I had both turbos off in about 2 hours. The intake only took about 30 mins to remove ....

    For some reason I had to re-read this thread again. Something was rattling in my head. They train you, a mechanic, in class to work on engines "on a stand". Yet when a mechanic or a home grown garage mechanic works on the engine, is almost NEVER on a stand, but "In The Engine Compartment. And it has bothered me that engineers who are to design the engines, also replacement parts for the engines seem to only consider working "on a stand".

    Now as a mechanic in training for this engine, may I ask, if this was placed "IN" the engine compartment:
    Could you pull both turbos off in the same time ?
    Could you pull the intake in the 30 minutes mention ?
    Filter changes and draiing oil ?
    Replace a starter ?
    Complete coolant service ?

    I've had issues all my life when serviceing my past vehicles, and I apologize, but I feel they need the engineers and mechanics as a mandatory assignment, to service their engines and parts replacements "ON" the engine AND "IN" the actual engine compartment.

    Maybe, and this is a maybe ... there would be many changes very soon ... or less engineers working for the automotive industry.

    (I'm sorry, but I'm old ... and we old people need to vent now and then.)



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    Anyone Have Any Questions About The New 5.0L Titan Cummins?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnOldBiker View Post
    For some reason I had to re-read this thread again. Something was rattling in my head. They train you, a mechanic, in class to work on engines "on a stand". Yet when a mechanic or a home grown garage mechanic works on the engine, is almost NEVER on a stand, but "In The Engine Compartment. And it has bothered me that engineers who are to design the engines, also replacement parts for the engines seem to only consider working "on a stand".

    Now as a mechanic in training for this engine, may I ask, if this was placed "IN" the engine compartment:
    Could you pull both turbos off in the same time ?
    Could you pull the intake in the 30 minutes mention ?
    Filter changes and draiing oil ?
    Replace a starter ?
    Complete coolant service ?

    I've had issues all my life when serviceing my past vehicles, and I apologize, but I feel they need the engineers and mechanics as a mandatory assignment, to service their engines and parts replacements "ON" the engine AND "IN" the actual engine compartment.

    Maybe, and this is a maybe ... there would be many changes very soon ... or less engineers working for the automotive industry.

    (I'm sorry, but I'm old ... and we old people need to vent now and then.)
    Then go to the Rant Thread

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    Anyone Have Any Questions About The New 5.0L Titan Cummins?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnOldBiker View Post
    For some reason I had to re-read this thread again. Something was rattling in my head. They train you, a mechanic, in class to work on engines "on a stand". Yet when a mechanic or a home grown garage mechanic works on the engine, is almost NEVER on a stand, but "In The Engine Compartment. And it has bothered me that engineers who are to design the engines, also replacement parts for the engines seem to only consider working "on a stand".

    Now as a mechanic in training for this engine, may I ask, if this was placed "IN" the engine compartment:
    Could you pull both turbos off in the same time ?
    Could you pull the intake in the 30 minutes mention ?
    Filter changes and draiing oil ?
    Replace a starter ?
    Complete coolant service ?

    I've had issues all my life when serviceing my past vehicles, and I apologize, but I feel they need the engineers and mechanics as a mandatory assignment, to service their engines and parts replacements "ON" the engine AND "IN" the actual engine compartment.

    Maybe, and this is a maybe ... there would be many changes very soon ... or less engineers working for the automotive industry.

    (I'm sorry, but I'm old ... and we old people need to vent now and then.)
    so just guessing but I'd say it would take roughly an hour to pull the intake for the first time.
    Add about 3 or so additional hours to pull the turbos and rotary turbine control valve.
    Nothing special about doing an oil change except the oil is only suppose to be about halfway up the crosshatch on the dipstick per the service manual. If you set the oil level to the top of the crosshatch it will actually be overfilled. Another interesting thing is the factory filled oil looks almost like pepto-bismal as it has dye installed at the cummins factory.
    Stater replacement maybe an hour or so, a lot better than the Titan 5.6 gas engine as its hidden under the intake plenum. Luckily that hardly ever fail.
    Coolant change is straight forward and has a bleed port to help remove excess air from the system.
    Las far as not training on an engine in the truck, I'm fine with it. I'm used to having limited information on a lot of repairs, service manuals can also be very vague on diagnostics and repair procedures. Things could be better but oh well, we make it work.
    The price point is a little higher than I figured now that ive seen a few window stickers. It does fill a niche in the market that was open but a loaded top of the line "platinum reserve" is around 65k. That's not far from a loaded ram 2500 that is capable of towing quite a bit more with more power etc. I do hope the truck is a success and I'm excited to see what kind of power they make once some companies figure out tuning.
    We recently got a pro-4x version in and sticker was 56k for a very nicely equipped truck.
    Also the exhaust emissions system looks exactly like the setup on the 6.7. Just visually looking at it, it looks as if they would interchange. From what I was told cummins was one of the first to be successful at exhaust emmisions on diesel and have great success with very few failures. The egr side is more complicated than the 6.7 as it can do hot egr(bypasses the egr cooler) for even quicker warmup and cooled egr while driving down the road.
    Looking back I lost the pictures of the engine as I destroyed my phone a few weeks ago and didn't have my data backed up.
    2 things the truck lacks that o really think it should've come with is an exhaust break and slightly higher towing capacity. I'm only guessing but I figure they went with less towing capacity to keep the ride soft and to prevent being direct competition with the big 3.


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