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    Help with turbo selection

    I'm considering upgrading my stock VGT turbo to a fixed one or a BD Screamer.

    If it's not VGT, look at the iron horn s364sxe/80 .91AR or the S364SXE/80 1.0 AR.

    The truck is still completely stocked as of now.

    It has 85k miles, and its goal is to be a street dd and occasionally pull a trailer.

    I am open to any other suggestions.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    I went with Industrial Injections 2 gen swap with their 33% CP3, 60hp injectors and a 165gph Fass.

    Couldn't be happier with the decision.

    When this turbo gives out, I'll swap the 64mm out for the 67mm and to the 10m CP3 with valves, spring and pushrods.

    Also have the T51R turbo mod which is a machined compressor cover.

    I like the aggressive loud spooling sound.

    I went with AGP for the cover.

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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustyb20 View Post
    I'm considering upgrading my stock VGT turbo to a fixed one or a BD Screamer.

    If it's not VGT, look at the iron horn s364sxe/80 .91AR or the S364SXE/80 1.0 AR.

    The truck is still completely stocked as of now.

    It has 85k miles, and its goal is to be a street dd and occasionally pull a trailer.

    I am open to any other suggestions.

    Thanks!

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    I got rid of my VGT and went with a 364.5 so far so good haven't towed with it but not worried at all.

    I see the VGT as a headache down the road so I just kept it simple .

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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Corkey View Post
    I went with Industrial Injections 2 gen swap with their 33% CP3, 60hp injectors and a 165gph Fass.

    Couldn't be happier with the decision.

    When this turbo gives out, I'll swap the 64mm out for the 67mm and to the 10m CP3 with valves, spring and pushrods.

    Also have the T51R turbo mod which is a machined compressor cover.

    I like the aggressive loud spooling sound.

    I went with AGP for the cover.
    I also thought about the second Gen swap after all the customizing I did I sat there many nights working on my truck and said heck I could have just done a second Gen swap. But already purchased everything so there was no turning back LOL.

    Almost went with AGP and the T51R but went with BD setup saved me about 600 in shipping to my part of the country .



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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustyb20 View Post
    I'm considering upgrading my stock VGT turbo to a fixed one or a BD Screamer.

    If it's not VGT, look at the iron horn s364sxe/80 .91AR or the S364SXE/80 1.0 AR.

    The truck is still completely stocked as of now.

    It has 85k miles, and its goal is to be a street dd and occasionally pull a trailer.

    I am open to any other suggestions.

    Thanks!

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    You mentioned pulling a trailer occasionally. If it’s heavy, over 10K you will be better off with the BD Screamer. The VGT will spool quickly and keep up with the airflow demands, especially when running at higher elevations and will help to keep the EGT”s lower, plus you will have the benefit of the exhaust brake.

    If you won’t be towing heavy, the non-VGT S364SXE turbo would be a great choice with stock CP3 and injectors or go with the second gen swap for future upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Bob View Post
    You mentioned pulling a trailer occasionally. If it’s heavy, over 10K you will be better off with the BD Screamer. The VGT will spool quickly and keep up with the airflow demands, especially when running at higher elevations and will help to keep the EGT”s lower, plus you will have the benefit of the exhaust brake.

    If you won’t be towing heavy, the non-VGT S364SXE turbo would be a great choice with stock CP3 and injectors or go with the second gen swap for future upgrades.
    If I go with the screamer, should I just go ahead and swap the actuator out with the city diesel one to prevent any future actuator issues, or does bd fix the issues that the holset has with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustyb20 View Post
    If I go with the screamer, should I just go ahead and swap the actuator out with the city diesel one to prevent any future actuator issues, or does bd fix the issues that the holset has with it?

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    I don’t know if BD modifies the OEM Holset actuator; you would need to contact them. Either way, the City Diesel would be a great option.

    I have been running my City Diesel actuator for four years without issues.

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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    Can one just bolt the BD in or will he need a tune?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomoad View Post
    Can one just bolt the BD in or will he need a tune?
    I don’t believe tuning is necessary, but sometimes performance is better with a tune made specifically for a modded VGT. I recommend checking with your tuner.
    @Dustyb20 If you are going with a VGT, the Fleece Cheetah is another great choice worth looking into.

    https://www.fleeceperformance.com/ch...l-cummins.html

    Last edited by AK Bob; 05-19-2024 at 02:16 PM.
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    Re: Help with turbo selection

    I've looked at that one as well.

    Both it and BD have good reviews.

    What baffles me is that they both use the holset actuator when knowing that it is a significant cause of issues and nothing about addressing its problems.

    It would make sense to me to put a City's Diesel actuator from the factory.

    It would look much more appealing than buying the turbo and then having to switch out an actuator on a brand-new turbo, so it's not an issue down the road.

    That's just my 2 cents.

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