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    I WILL STAND! AK Bob's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkey View Post
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    There is the culprit.

    The input shaft snapped right at the splines inside the converter and could not get the broken piece out.

    I picked the truck up today, and he recommended a 1-2 week in town driving for the trans relearn process to be accurate.

    I'll return in 15 days for a recheck on everything and make any adjustments if needed.

    My one question is, he installed just a soft tune, I believe he called it.

    Will or shall I get a hold of the doc to get any benefit out of the Trans that way?

    Or continue with whatever my builder did.
    Did the builder upgrade the input shaft?

    DRD tuning is the way to go, but at this point, you need to also consider transmission warranty issues prior to adding more power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Bob View Post
    Did the builder upgrade the input shaft?

    DRD tuning is the way to go, but at this point, you need to also consider transmission warranty issues prior to adding more power.
    Yeah, he installed a 300m billet input shaft, ATS BILLET flex plate, steel kit, ATF, triple-disc super premier converter, cooler filter, internal filter oem, low sprag assembly, OD high hp pressure plate, line sensor OEM, molded piston kit, RFE-7 soft tune, RFE REG OS, RFE TCC Accum, RFE 453 switch valve, new bushings, solenoid "black" OEM, UD BALANCE piston Spain set, a modified pump, VB, so on.

    There's more; he just didn't have room to write everything down.

    Not sure about the warranty or not being voided; I mentioned the MM3, and he didn't seem to pop up with a red flag.

    It's stupid not to let the horses out of the gate and feel what she's got.

    So far, a night and day difference in light shifting.

    After the motor got up to temp and driving "stop n go," the return line was 111, the pump line was 141, OD 38, UD 42, L\R 73 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corkey View Post
    Thanks, AK BOB; I'll grab a cup of whiskey and watch; also, think of how ill come up with this big bill to get the ole girl on the road again.
    Just remember, if it has wheels, boobs or an address, its going to cost ya money.

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    I am bringing this back up for a moment.

    I recently had an issue with a concerning sound, only in 2nd gear.

    I thought it was a loose chain in the TC, which was not the case, and it favored me for once.

    Long story short, i shattered the hardened steel snap ring, which destroyed a few things in the process.

    It was under warranty, so not a penny was spent.

    The question, he stated two things could have happened; tune for the TCM was what caused it to give "line psi is i recall 165".

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    The temper on the ring was faulty.

    He restored just the TCM to stock, and I hate how it shifts being stock.

    Can or should I just put the TCM tune back in?

    I highly doubt it's due to anything TCM-related.

    I want some feedback, please, and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corkey View Post
    I am bringing this back up for a moment.

    I recently had an issue with a concerning sound, only in 2nd gear.

    I thought it was a loose chain in the TC, which was not the case, and it favored me for once.

    Long story short, i shattered the hardened steel snap ring, which destroyed a few things in the process.

    It was under warranty, so not a penny was spent.

    The question, he stated two things could have happened; tune for the TCM was what caused it to give "line psi is i recall 165".

    or

    The temper on the ring was faulty.

    He restored just the TCM to stock, and I hate how it shifts being stock.

    Can or should I just put the TCM tune back in?

    I highly doubt it's due to anything TCM-related.

    I want some feedback, please, and thank you.
    Or the snap ring was not seated correctly! LOL

    Seriously, I have a hard time believing the tune would cause this.

    Hopefully, someone with more transmission experience will chime in.

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    Re: Well It Happened!

    What snap ring?

    If it’s the 2C piston snap ring, I’ve seen a few dislodged from the center support and make noise or cause a hard shift.


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    I don't recall exactly what snap ring it was; he was speaking in terms I was not familiar with.

    The sound for lack of better terms was, cards in spokes, or very similar to a loose chain rubbing inside the TC.

    He put a new drum, clutches, snap rings, and fluids.

    Test drove it, said it checks out great.

    Threw the TCM to 0 "stock" and said, "not sure if it was tune related, or temper of the snap ring."

    I'm on board of the temper suggestion or the ring was not seated correctly.

    If I recall correctly, the tune for the TCM is commanded to 160 or 165psi, to help with the problematic slip.

    My issue with the stock file, on higher power levels, even more slip and more trips back to the shop.

    More slip = more generated heat, which we all know, the 68's hate.

    It's on the relearn process yet again.

    Do I throw the TCM file back in, I'll have a crisper shift, as we'll with better shift points over stock? Will that cause conflicts with the relearn?

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    Re: Well It Happened!

    Reload the tcm file, the added line pressure did not cause any damage to the snap ring.


    There a 4 snap rings in the 68 that should be changed out every rebuild. Really they should be swapped to a different style snap but not every builder has that info.

    The snap ring was either reused when it shouldn’t have been or installed correctly.


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    What hp level are you running?

    Based on your build list I’d keep it 120 or lower. You got a billet input and triple disc (the brand concerns me never heard of them).

    It looks like he used the tgo machined pressure plate for the od clutch’s it allows 14 clutch’s in od vs 12 factory count.

    That’s basically is a 500hp rated transmission.


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    I put in tow for now.

    I know there is beveled and flat snap rings.

    I'm wanting to throw the TCM back how I had it.

    Just unsure if it would cause a conflict or not.

    Typically, I run the 200hp

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