Thanks, nice write up and explanation.Not for a diesel that has a lot of options. Remember, a 3/4 ton truck(up until this year) has a 10k GVWR. Payload = GVWR - weight of the vehicle.
My current 2016 Ram 2500 Mega Cab Limited CTD has a payload of just under 1800lbs. Crazy, right?
I bought a 2500 thinking it would be great for towing the Raptor 300MP I bought.....NOT!!
I mean, it pulls and stops it fine but I know I am close to the 6500lbs RAWR, way over on payload which also means I'm way over my GVWR with trailer hooked up.
To the OP, it's actually really simple if you're going by the book.
GVWR = max total weight of either TV or trailer
GCWR = Max combined weight of both TV and trailer
Payload = Pin or tongue weight + weight of any people or cargo in the TV. This is where a 3/4 ton is barely better than a 1/2 ton truck, due to 10k GVWR(until this year).
RAWR = Manufacturer's max rear axle load capability
FAWR = Manufacturer's max front axle load capability
Capability = RAWR + FAWR
My setup(weight police please don't blast me, I am looking for 3500 as I type):
TV GVWR of 10k lbs - Truck weight of 8170lbs = 1830lbs of payload
Trailer empty 12,800lbs and 2800lbs on the pin. My pin weight alone puts me 1k lbs over payload of the TV and that's empty. Trailer GVWR is 16.5k lbs. At that weight I would expect pin load to be 3400-3500lbs since it's a toy hauler and garage weight will actually take weight off of the pin load. I tow with all tanks empty to keep weight down.
In my 1 year of towing this Raptor 300MP I have concluded a few things from observation and conversation at racetracks and campgrounds.
1. Weight measurements and understanding of them is all over the place and few actually know how to determine this. Of course people that are in the now are prob laughing at my setup and weights.
2. Dealers/ Salesman will tell you your truck is fine up to you max towing rate, regardless of any other numbers.
3. Again, almost all of the people out there have no clue or understanding of the weights and laws.
I just wish I knew more before I bought this truck. I would've definitely gone with a 3500. I am currently looking, just unsure if I am gonna make the jump to a dually or not at this point in time. Of course I did the "spark plug upgrade" and am planning to do some others shortly so I will have to put this truck back to stock to sell it.
2014 RAM 3500 (Aisin) 3.73 4X4 Limited Crew Cab Long Bed DRW. Oil Bypass Filter, 50 Gallon auxiliary fuel tank.
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