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    Towing Tune Question

    Just looking for experiences/opinions. We are full-time RVers. Towing approx. 15k HitchHiker fifth wheel with a 2010 DRW Crew Cab long bed and 68RFE tranny, full deletes with a RaceMe Ultra tuner running box tunes (version RAME007C). Running the stock power tune.

    My question is this: while towing, what would be the safest RT tune to use? Don’t want to toast the tranny. Don’t feel the need for power, just looking to improve fuel economy where I can. Also, when selecting the RT parameters, what about rail pressure, timing, and torque? Currently, all those are set to default.

    Thanks in advance,

    Bob


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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    I user the 60 hp tune when towing.

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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    You can bump up the tuner a little bit. Keep an eye on your gauges and go from there. I have towed on 100hp before with no issues. Again this will depend on weight, where you are in country, hills, etc...

    If you notice your truck getting too high in egts or trans temp in one tune bump it down. If you need to give it alot of acceleration going up steep hills bump it down to be safe.

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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    I haven't towed with the MM3 tunes yet but ran the 90hp on my previous tuner. I just had to remember to manually shift to 5th gear prior taking any real grade.

    Greg
    2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    Towed on stock power today about 90 miles ( Socorro to Albuquerque, NM) up I-25. EGTs ran around 850, with a peak of 1035. Ran in fifth at 60-65 mph the entire way. Coolant temp seemed to run a little high - averaged around 207-208 and I normally see 203-204. Tranny temp ran 172 at its hottest. Ambient temp was 90 and full sun the entire way.

    I may try the 30 hp tune when we leave here for Durango, CO, on Tuesday to see if maybe something is messed up in the RACE007C stock tune.

    Thanks for the responses,

    Bob


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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobtipton View Post
    Towed on stock power today about 90 miles ( Socorro to Albuquerque, NM) up I-25. EGTs ran around 850, with a peak of 1035. Ran in fifth at 60-65 mph the entire way. Coolant temp seemed to run a little high - averaged around 207-208 and I normally see 203-204. Tranny temp ran 172 at its hottest. Ambient temp was 90 and full sun the entire way.

    I may try the 30 hp tune when we leave here for Durango, CO, on Tuesday to see if maybe something is messed up in the RACE007C stock tune.

    Thanks for the responses,

    Bob


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    Your temps are good. Thermostat opens at 208 on the older 4th gens so it makes sense that you hover close to that mark when towing. My trans temp is typically 80-90* above air temp when towing which matches up with what you got too. Peak EGTs will go up as you raise the hp but as long as you keep it under 1500* you're good.

    Safe travels!

    Greg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power247 View Post
    Your temps are good. Thermostat opens at 208 on the older 4th gens so it makes sense that you hover close to that mark when towing. My trans temp is typically 80-90* above air temp when towing which matches up with what you got too. Peak EGTs will go up as you raise the hp but as long as you keep it under 1500* you're good.

    Safe travels!

    Greg
    2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | MM3 tuned by Double R Diesel
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    X2 Agree with Greg as far as trans temperature depends on size of load your hauling and most definitely the ambient temperature and how hard you push down on go pedal and what hp level your running good luck and safe travels

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKBIGDADDYDIESELDAN View Post
    X2 Agree with Greg as far as trans temperature depends on size of load your hauling and most definitely the ambient temperature and how hard you push down on go pedal and what hp level your running good luck and safe travels
    Hauling approx. 15k fifth wheel. Running stock power. 60 mph in fifth gear and I try to keep EGTs below 1100 as the probe is mounted in rear cooler block off plate, which I understand reads about 200 degrees cooler?

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    Hello, New to the forum and I know this thread is a little old but thought I would throw my .02 cents out there. I have a 2010 DRW 4x4 with the same trans and same tuner. Only difference is I have a H&S exhaust manifold and borg warner SX-E 63mm turbo with 5" exhaust. My truck absolutely sucks on MPG towing or not on the low settings. If I turn the tuner all the way up I gain alot of MPG. With no trailer on stock settings and even 60hp tune I will get 10-11mpg at best on the highway at the speed limit with cruise. Now if I turn mine all the way up to the 200hp tune and make the same trip it will get 20-21mpg. I just made a 800 mile trip pulling my 44' cyclone toy hauler fully loaded at 70mph on the 200 hp tune and the temps all remained fine and I got 14mpg. Normally pulling i would get 8-9mpg. Truck never ran any hotter than when on a stock tune. Risky? Maybe but without high temps I dont see it as a problem. I know the trans is the weak link but I never saw any increase in temp or noticed any funny shifting. I think this may be different if it was in the hills or mountains and this trip was fairly flat. Guess I will keep it turned up and see how well it all holds together.


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    Re: Towing Tune Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks2010 View Post
    Hello, New to the forum and I know this thread is a little old but thought I would throw my .02 cents out there. I have a 2010 DRW 4x4 with the same trans and same tuner. Only difference is I have a H&S exhaust manifold and borg warner SX-E 63mm turbo with 5" exhaust. My truck absolutely sucks on MPG towing or not on the low settings. If I turn the tuner all the way up I gain alot of MPG. With no trailer on stock settings and even 60hp tune I will get 10-11mpg at best on the highway at the speed limit with cruise. Now if I turn mine all the way up to the 200hp tune and make the same trip it will get 20-21mpg. I just made a 800 mile trip pulling my 44' cyclone toy hauler fully loaded at 70mph on the 200 hp tune and the temps all remained fine and I got 14mpg. Normally pulling i would get 8-9mpg. Truck never ran any hotter than when on a stock tune. Risky? Maybe but without high temps I dont see it as a problem. I know the trans is the weak link but I never saw any increase in temp or noticed any funny shifting. I think this may be different if it was in the hills or mountains and this trip was fairly flat. Guess I will keep it turned up and see how well it all holds together.
    Welcome friend keep us updated if you have any changes.


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