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    Anyone use this stuff? Since my truck is new, I'm curious if using some type of fuel treatment it's whole life would be beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN View Post
    Anyone use this stuff? Since my truck is new, I'm curious if using some type of fuel treatment it's whole life would be beneficial. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...081bbe8fe1.jpg

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    this is what I use, mainly because I don't drive the truck all the time and try to keep the tank full




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    Quote Originally Posted by Md Jeff View Post
    this is what I use, mainly because I don't drive the truck all the time and try to keep the tank full

    My truck sits during the week. I only get it out on the weekends. So it only gets about 4-5K miles a year put on it. That's kinda why I'm thinking it might be good to have something in the fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN View Post
    My truck sits during the week. I only get it out on the weekends. So it only gets about 4-5K miles a year put on it. That's kinda why I'm thinking it might be good to have something in the fuel.

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    I worry more about it sitting with todays diesel fuel than anything else, I've got a buddy who is a diesel mechanic and he made me aware of growth in the fuel tank from biodiesel-blends, he recommended I keep it full if I'm not driving it regularly, not sure if it's anything to worry about in my situation but figured I'd use an additive to help with moisture as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by Md Jeff View Post
    I worry more about it sitting with todays diesel fuel than anything else, I've got a buddy who is a diesel mechanic and he made me aware of growth in the fuel tank from biodiesel-blends, he recommended I keep it full if I'm not driving it regularly, not sure if it's anything to worry about in my situation but figured I'd use an additive to help with moisture as well
    Definitely something to worry about. Especially if it sits for a long time. Long time meaning months on end. I used to haul fuel for a living. Algae can grow in a tankif it's not used and moisture is present. There are products that kill the Algae but no one wants to deal with that crap. IMO biodiesel is only good for plugging filters...

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    I used to use the Lucas, but have switched to the Archoil AR6200. But, mine doesn't sit, it's my daily driver.
    I fill up about once every 2 weeks. Last year I used over 1300 gallons. Archoil is cheaper per fill up.


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    Lucas doesn't do anything

    Power Service works very good for the cost
    Hot Shots performs great to


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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN View Post
    Anyone use this stuff? Since my truck is new, I'm curious if using some type of fuel treatment it's whole life would be beneficial. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...081bbe8fe1.jpg

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    I would definitely recommend using an additive, especially if you leave sit. I have a Tractor Trailer and ran many additives in the past, most of them do the job but I prefer Power Service or Howe's. They both stand behind there products for cleaning and lubricating and also for the winter from your fuel gelling up. I buy by the case from truck parts store but you can find them at Tractor Supply or many other auto/truck parts stores. You don't need alot for your pickup but it will save you alot of headaches down the road if you get algae or freeze up.

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    Did some digging and found this study on fuel additives. In another forum...It's long, but I guess I've been wasting my money on Lucas... focus on the part that has the acronym "HFRR" Then scroll down to the results...
    I'm going to look for "OPTI-LUBE" at some truck stops this week while I'm on the road. But it looks like "Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000" is what I'll end up with...

    PURPOSE:
    The purpose of this research was to determine the ability of multiple diesel fuel additives to replace the vital lubricity component in ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel) fuel.

    HISTORY:
    ULSD fuel is the fuel currently mandated for use in all on road diesel engines. This fuel burns cleaner and is less polluting than it’s predecessor, called Low Sulfer Diesel Fuel. Low sulfer fuel contained less than 500 ppm of sulfer. ULSD contains 15 ppm or less.

    As diesel fuel is further refined to remove the polluting sulfer, it is inadvertently stripped of its lubricating properties. This vital lubrication is a necessary component of the diesel fuel as it prevents wear in the fuel delivery system. Specifically, it lubricates pumps, high pressure pumps and injectors. Traditional Low sulfer diesel fuel typically contained enough lubricating ability to suffice the needs of these vital components. ULSD fuel, on the other hand, is considered to be very “dry” and incapable of lubricating vital fuel delivery components. As a result, these components are at risk of premature and even catastrophic failure when ULSD fuel is introduced to the system. As a result, all oil companies producing ULSD fuel must replace the lost lubricity with additives. All ULSD fuel purchased at retail fuel stations SHOULD be adequately treated with additives to replace this lost lubricity. The potential result of using inadequately treated fuel, as indicated above, can be catastrophic. There have been many documented cases of randomly tested samples of diesel fuel. These tests prove that often times the fuel we purchase is not adequately treated and may therefore contribute to accelerated wear of our fuel delivery systems. For this reason it may be prudent to use an after market diesel fuel additive to ENSURE adequate lubrication of the fuel delivery system. Additionally, many additives can offer added benefits such as cetane improver, and water

    How Diesel Fuel Is Evaluated For Lubricating Ability:

    Diesel fuel and other fluids are tested for lubricating ability using a device called a “High Frequency Reciprocating Rig” or HFRR. The HFRR is currently the Internationally accepted, standardized method to evaluate fluids for lubricating ability. It uses a ball bearing that reciprocates or moves back and forth on a metal surface at a very high frequency for a duration of 90 minutes. The machine does this while the ball bearing and metal surface are immersed in the test fluid (in this case, treated diesel fuel). At the end of the test the ball bearing is examined under a microscope and the “wear scar” on the ball bearing is measured in microns. The larger the wear scar, the poorer the lubricating ability of the fluid. Southwest Research runs every sample twice and averages the size of the wear scar.

    The U.S. standard for diesel fuel says a commercially available diesel fuel should produce a wear scar of no greater than 520 microns. The Engine Manufacturers Association had requested a standard of a wear scar no greater than 460 microns, typical of the pre-ULSD fuels. Most experts agree that a 520 micron standard is adequate, but also that the lower the wear scar the better.

    METHOD:
    An independent research firm in Texas was hired to do the laboratory work. The cost of the research was paid for voluntarily by the participating additive manufacturers. Declining to participate and pay for the research were the following companies: Amsoil and Power Service. Because these are popular products it was determined that they needed to be included in the study. These products were tested using funds collected by diesel enthusiasts at “dieselplace.com”. Additionally, unconventional additives such as 2-cycle oil and used motor oil were tested for their abilities to aid in diesel fuel lubricity. These were also paid for by members of “dieselplace.com”.

    The study was conducted in the following manner:

    -The Research firm obtained a quantity of “untreated” ULSD fuel from a supplier. This fuel was basic ULSD fuel intended for use in diesel engines. However, this sample was acquired PRIOR to any attempt to additize the fuel for the purpose of replacing lost lubricity. In other words, it was a “worst case scenario, very dry diesel fuel” that would likely cause damage to any fuel delivery system. This fuel was tested using the HFRR at the Southwest Research Laboratory. This fuel was determined to have a very high HFRR score of 636 microns, typical of an untreated ULSD fuel. It was determined that this batch of fuel would be utilized as the baseline fuel for testing all of the additives. The baseline fuel HFRR score of 636 would be used as the control sample. All additives tested would be evaluated on their ability to replace lost lubricity to the fuel by comparing their scores to the control sample. Any score under 636 shows improvement to the fuels ability to lubricate the fuel delivery system of a diesel engine.

    BLIND STUDY:
    In order to ensure a completely unbiased approach to the study, the following steps were taken:

    Each additive tested was obtained independently via internet or over the counter purchases. The only exceptions were Opti-Lube XPD and the bio-diesel sample. The reason for this is because Opti-Lube XPD additive was considered “experimental” at the time of test enrollment and was not yet on the market. It was sent directly from Opti-Lube company. The bio-diesel sample was sponsored by Renewable Energy Group. One of their suppliers, E.H. Wolf and Sons in Slinger, Wisconsin supplied us with a sample of 100% soybean based bio-diesel. This sample was used to blend with the baseline fuel to create a 2% bio-diesel for testing.

    Each additive was bottled separately in identical glass containers. The bottles were labeled only with a number. This number corresponded to the additive contained in the bottle. The order of numbering was done randomly by drawing names out of a hat. Only Spicer Research held the key to the additives in each bottle.

    The additive samples were then sent in a box to An independent research firm. The only information given them was the ratio of fuel to be added to each additive sample. For example, bottle “A” needs to be mixed at a ratio of “480-1”. The ratio used for each additive was the “prescribed dosage” found on the bottle label for that product. Used motor oil and 2-cycle oil were tested at a rationally chosen ratio of 200:1.

    The Research Laboratory mixed the proper ratio of each “bottled fluid” into a separate container containing the baseline fuel. The data, therefore, is meaningful because every additive is tested in the same way using the same fuel. A side-by-side comparison of the effectiveness of each additive is now obtainable.

    THE RESULTS:
    These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The baseline fuel used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The score shown is the tested HFRR score of the baseline fuel/additive blend.

    Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well as other claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as a Multi-purpose additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, non-conventional, or as an additive capable of treating both gasoline and diesel fuel.

    As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated tank of diesel fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank provided as “ounces of additive per 26 gallon tank”.

    In Order Of Performance:

    1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel

    HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.

    50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel

    66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel

    Price: market value

    2)Opti-Lube XPD

    Multi-purpose + anti-gel

    cetane improver, demulsifier

    HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.

    256:1 ratio

    13 oz/tank

    $4.35/tank

    3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment

    Gas and Diesel

    cetane improver, emulsifier

    HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement

    640:1 ratio

    5.2 oz/tank

    $2.60/tank

    4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend

    Multi-purpose

    demulsifier

    HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement

    3000:1 ratio

    1.11 oz/tank

    $0.68/tank

    5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend

    Muti-purpose + anti-gel

    cetane improver

    HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement

    512:1 ratio

    6.5 oz/tank

    $3.65/tank

    6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000

    Multi-purpose + anti-gel

    cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible

    HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $1.87/tank

    7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil

    Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)

    HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement

    200:1 ratio

    16.64 oz/tank

    $1.09/tank

    8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula

    Lubricity Only

    demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

    HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $1.00/tank

    9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate

    Multi-purpose

    demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

    HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement

    640:1 ratio

    5.2 oz/tank

    $2.16/tank

    10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost

    Multi-purpose

    Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

    HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement

    400:1 ratio

    8.32 oz/tank

    $1.58/tank

    11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner

    Multi-purpose

    Alcohol free

    HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $1.36/tank

    12)Stanadyne Performance Formula

    Multi-purpose + anti-gel

    cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

    HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement

    480:1 ratio

    6.9 oz/tank

    $4.35/tank

    13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used.

    Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)

    HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement

    200:1 ratio

    16.64 oz/tank

    price: market value

    14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant

    Gas or diesel

    HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)

    427:1 ratio

    7.8 oz/tank

    $2.65/tank

    15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech

    Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive

    HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $2.67/tank

    16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power

    Multi-purpose + anti-gel

    Emulsifier, alcohol free

    HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $1.12/tank

    17)Marvel Mystery Oil

    Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer systems)

    HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.

    320:1 ratio

    10.4 oz/tank

    $3.22/tank

    18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive

    Multi-purpose

    Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free

    HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel

    1000:1 ratio

    3.32 oz/tank

    $2.38/tank

    19)Primrose Power Blend 2003

    Multi-purpose

    Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier

    HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline

    1066:1 ratio

    3.12 oz/tank

    $1.39/tank

    CONCLUSIONS:
    Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the most strict requirements requested by the Engine Manufacturers Association.

    Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for maximum wear scar in a commercially available diesel fuel.

    Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This is not unprecedented in HFRR testing and can be caused by alcohol or other components in the additives. Further investigation into the possibilities behind these poor results will investigated.

    Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be considered to have no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a +/- 20 micron variability to be considered insignificant.

    CREDITS:
    This study would not have been possible without the participation of all companies involved and dieselplace.com. A special Thank You to all of the dieselplace.com members who generously donated toward this study and waited longer than they should have for the results. You folks are the best. Arlen Spicer, organizer.

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    Re: Lucas fuel treatment

    That report has been around a while and newer stuff has become popular since.
    I've used Archoil AR6200 the last 3 years and have been happy about it
    (but don't tell Polaraco about it).






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