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    Go Biggish or Go home? Compounds....

    I will be the first to admit I have a serious problem when it comes to keeping things stock. You see; IF it can be turned up and theres more room on the table when hell; I am gonna turn it up.

    At least my truck made it to 15,000 Miiles before I did something major. My poor Hellcat lasted about 1000 miles before she got major modifications.

    to date the truck is deleted, ARP 625's and tuned by Ray @Double R Diesel

    So I pulled the trigger on a compound turbo kit by Hardway Performance. This kit specifically - https://hardwayperformance.com/dodge...t-stage-2.html

    Little write up - "2013-15 6.7 Cummins Compound Turbo Kit Stage 2This kit utilizes your factory manifold with a factory replacement FPE billet 63mm Cheetah turbo charger in conjunction with supplied piping kit and a cast 75mm S400 (S475/96-1.32AR-T6) or you can upgrade to a billet wheel.
    Applications to include all 2013-2015 6.7 Ram 2500-5500 trucks with everything intact underhood or those with existing tasteful upgrades."

    And So why this kit? - What about drive pressures? Why would anyone not go 2nd gen swap?

    A few reasons really; the most obvious is the exhaust brake and the ability to maintain it without the additional of yet another aftermarket part. May motto is that closest to stock is always best and I think this kit just improves on what was already great. The Cheetah will get me the flow I need and the Borg Warner will give me back the low end and throttle response I am looking for. Keeping in mind that I also ordered the Steed Speed V24 Manifold to accompany the setup as well to help maintain drive pressures.

    Lastly, whenever I do something to modify I always try and offset it by adding a future proof'd mod i can benefit from now. So in addition I will be adding an AirDog200 Lift pump. (Not FAS - my mechanic loves AirDog so I will go with what he loves)

    I tow a lot. I have 2 race cars and don't need a 3rd so I want to keep this truck functional as its pulling 15-20k nearly every weekend. This will really bring down my EGT's to something more manageable and hopefully give me the 500-600whp truck I want. Guys are putting down 700whp on this exact kit with stock studs and fuel so I think my goals are modest.

    Concerns -
    -Still on a stock (non-abused) 68RFE. I hate this and a RevMax setup is in my very near future. But mentally I am really really hard pressed to replace it when its been nothing but rock solid to date. Ray is my tuner and really does a good job at keeping this thing intact. Lastly, a experienced right foot is the ultimate deciding factor in longevity.

    -Turbo Whistle - Who cares right? Hell yes i care. I love my whistle tune and I really hope i don't lose it.

    Quick video of the kit -



    Build is happening in 2 weeks so I will keep you all posted on results.


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    Sounds like a pretty solid setup. I wouldn't think that 5-600 hp should be a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickcrsx View Post
    I will be the first to admit I have a serious problem when it comes to keeping things stock. You see; IF it can be turned up and theres more room on the table when hell; I am gonna turn it up.

    At least my truck made it to 15,000 Miiles before I did something major. My poor Hellcat lasted about 1000 miles before she got major modifications.

    to date the truck is deleted, ARP 625's and tuned by Ray @ DoubleRDiesel

    So I pulled the trigger on a compound turbo kit by Hardway Performance. This kit specifically - https://hardwayperformance.com/dodge...t-stage-2.html

    Little write up - "2013-15 6.7 Cummins Compound Turbo Kit Stage 2This kit utilizes your factory manifold with a factory replacement FPE billet 63mm Cheetah turbo charger in conjunction with supplied piping kit and a cast 75mm S400 (S475/96-1.32AR-T6) or you can upgrade to a billet wheel.
    Applications to include all 2013-2015 6.7 Ram 2500-5500 trucks with everything intact underhood or those with existing tasteful upgrades."

    And So why this kit? - What about drive pressures? Why would anyone not go 2nd gen swap?

    A few reasons really; the most obvious is the exhaust brake and the ability to maintain it without the additional of yet another aftermarket part. May motto is that closest to stock is always best and I think this kit just improves on what was already great. The Cheetah will get me the flow I need and the Borg Warner will give me back the low end and throttle response I am looking for. Keeping in mind that I also ordered the Steed Speed V24 Manifold to accompany the setup as well to help maintain drive pressures.

    Lastly, whenever I do something to modify I always try and offset it by adding a future proof'd mod i can benefit from now. So in addition I will be adding an AirDog200 Lift pump. (Not FAS - my mechanic loves AirDog so I will go with what he loves)

    I tow a lot. I have 2 race cars and don't need a 3rd so I want to keep this truck functional as its pulling 15-20k nearly every weekend. This will really bring down my EGT's to something more manageable and hopefully give me the 500-600whp truck I want. Guys are putting down 700whp on this exact kit with stock studs and fuel so I think my goals are modest.

    Concerns -
    -Still on a stock (non-abused) 68RFE. I hate this and a RevMax setup is in my very near future. But mentally I am really really hard pressed to replace it when its been nothing but rock solid to date. Ray is my tuner and really does a good job at keeping this thing intact. Lastly, a experienced right foot is the ultimate deciding factor in longevity.

    -Turbo Whistle - Who cares right? Hell yes i care. I love my whistle tune and I really hope i don't lose it.

    Quick video of the kit -



    Build is happening in 2 weeks so I will keep you all posted on results.
    Sounds like a really mean setup bud

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    @Nickcrsx Sounds like a fun build. Are you doing any upgrading of your injectors or CP3 pump? Good luck on your build!

    One more question what mods did you do to your Hell Cat?

    2014 Ram Laramie 3500 CCSB 6.7 Cummins. 3.42 gears. EGR Delete. Flo~Pro 5 inch TBE. ARP 625's. GDP grid delete and S2. 464 BMP Turbo on 2nd Gen Manifold. BD Exhaust Brake. Fass 150G Fuel System. BBI 1.5's. Exergy 10mm Stroker Pump. RevMax 68RFE 700 Series. Dual remote oil filters. Thuren coils. Carli progressive leafs with Thuren Kings 2.5. AMP Steps. Snow Performance Water/Meth Stage 2. BDS Recoil Traction Bars.
    Nitto Ridge Grapplers 35's on 20 x 10 Fuel Vapors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanO View Post
    @Nickcrsx Sounds like a fun build. Are you doing any upgrading of your injectors or CP3 pump? Good luck on your build!

    One more question what mods did you do to your Hell Cat?
    For now keeping the truck on stock injectors. Stock is pretty good up to 700+ from what I've seen but once I build that trans it will get something a little more substantial.

    As for the cat -
    -Lower t-Stat
    -Aluminum drive Shaft
    -4.09 Gear set
    -ATI lower Crank
    -Metco 2.85 Pully & Idler's
    -ID1000 CC injectors
    -American Racing Headers

    Made 859WHP on race fuel and 768WHP on pump.


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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but this kit uses the stock manifold so a Steed Speed won't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickcrsx View Post
    For now keeping the truck on stock injectors. Stock is pretty good up to 700+ from what I've seen but once I build that trans it will get something a little more substantial.

    As for the cat -
    -Lower t-Stat
    -Aluminum drive Shaft
    -4.09 Gear set
    -ATI lower Crank
    -Metco 2.85 Pully & Idler's
    -ID1000 CC injectors
    -American Racing Headers

    Made 859WHP on race fuel and 768WHP on pump.
    Nice I'll bet it's a blast! How much boost are you pushing?

    2014 Ram Laramie 3500 CCSB 6.7 Cummins. 3.42 gears. EGR Delete. Flo~Pro 5 inch TBE. ARP 625's. GDP grid delete and S2. 464 BMP Turbo on 2nd Gen Manifold. BD Exhaust Brake. Fass 150G Fuel System. BBI 1.5's. Exergy 10mm Stroker Pump. RevMax 68RFE 700 Series. Dual remote oil filters. Thuren coils. Carli progressive leafs with Thuren Kings 2.5. AMP Steps. Snow Performance Water/Meth Stage 2. BDS Recoil Traction Bars.
    Nitto Ridge Grapplers 35's on 20 x 10 Fuel Vapors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanO View Post
    Nice I'll bet it's a blast! How much boost are you pushing?
    Cummins or Cat?

    Cat is 15-16PSI. Was over 17 before the headers were added.


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    Cat, Thanks.

    2014 Ram Laramie 3500 CCSB 6.7 Cummins. 3.42 gears. EGR Delete. Flo~Pro 5 inch TBE. ARP 625's. GDP grid delete and S2. 464 BMP Turbo on 2nd Gen Manifold. BD Exhaust Brake. Fass 150G Fuel System. BBI 1.5's. Exergy 10mm Stroker Pump. RevMax 68RFE 700 Series. Dual remote oil filters. Thuren coils. Carli progressive leafs with Thuren Kings 2.5. AMP Steps. Snow Performance Water/Meth Stage 2. BDS Recoil Traction Bars.
    Nitto Ridge Grapplers 35's on 20 x 10 Fuel Vapors.

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    You're correct.

    Hardway modified my kit so it would.


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