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    Transmission Failures..... I’m Seeing a Trend

    I’m beginning to see a trend on social media lately. 68RFE owners who have trans tuning that keeps the converter locked between shifts are starting to have transmission failures..... This comes as no surprise to me. That converter unlocking between shifts is there for a reason and the proof is beginning to show.


    The only thing in the oil field that's for sure, is nothing is for sure.......

    2017 Ram Laramie Longhorn 2500, Lifted, deleted, MM3 tuned by Double R Diesel. RevMax Enhanced 68RFE

    2017 Laramie Schlonghorn 2500, 4" coil spring, tubular radius arm Superlift, Sota REPR 20x10 -19 offset wheels, 35x13.50 Toyo Open Country R/T tires.. RaceME MM3 tuning by Double R Diesel, 5" Flo-Pro TBE no muffler, HPP EGR delete, GDP Mega-Flo Billet Throttle Valve Delete Airaid dry filter w/smooth inlet tube
    1974 Plymouth Roadrunner, 440ci R3 Siamese bore small block (700hp) Faceplated TKO 600 5 speed, Dana 60 with 4.56 gears
    1979 Lil Red Express (Currently doing a 12 valve Cummins swap)


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    Re: Transmission Failures..... I’m Seeing a Trend

    Built ones or stock units? Or both?


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    I just put a stock TCM back on my 09. Was starting to feel some unhappy things. 45 miles with stock TCM back on and relearning
    So far things are getting back to normal


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    Re: Transmission Failures..... I’m Seeing a Trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisenheimer View Post
    Built ones or stock units? Or both?


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    Stock


    The only thing in the oil field that's for sure, is nothing is for sure.......

    2017 Ram Laramie Longhorn 2500, Lifted, deleted, MM3 tuned by Double R Diesel. RevMax Enhanced 68RFE

    2017 Laramie Schlonghorn 2500, 4" coil spring, tubular radius arm Superlift, Sota REPR 20x10 -19 offset wheels, 35x13.50 Toyo Open Country R/T tires.. RaceME MM3 tuning by Double R Diesel, 5" Flo-Pro TBE no muffler, HPP EGR delete, GDP Mega-Flo Billet Throttle Valve Delete Airaid dry filter w/smooth inlet tube
    1974 Plymouth Roadrunner, 440ci R3 Siamese bore small block (700hp) Faceplated TKO 600 5 speed, Dana 60 with 4.56 gears
    1979 Lil Red Express (Currently doing a 12 valve Cummins swap)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 74Beeper View Post
    I’m beginning to see a trend on social media lately. 68RFE owners who have trans tuning that keeps the converter locked between shifts are starting to have transmission failures..... This comes as no surprise to me. That converter unlocking between shifts is there for a reason and the proof is beginning to show.


    The only thing in the oil field that's for sure, is nothing is for sure.......

    2017 Ram Laramie Longhorn 2500, Lifted, deleted, MM3 tuned by Double R Diesel. RevMax Enhanced 68RFE
    Have I not been preaching this!? Locked shifts have their place...and it does feel great in the seat provided nothing breaks. Folks need to understand lock shifts can break stock parts and even billet parts too!

    Actually we plan to offer locked shifts in the future BUT we will make sure the customer will understand the risk when we do.

    Ray

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    Double R Diesel
    www.doublerdiesel.com
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    The Cummins Whisperer! John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10...Tuning for the Heart and Soul.


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    Re: Transmission Failures..... I’m Seeing a Trend

    It shouldn't make a difference but with the extreme cold temps that's when I started noticing things

    Synthetic trans fluid is supposed to be good in this weather

    Like anything though it will thicken up. I set some up in a glass tube in my barn. It was probably slightly warmer than sitting inside the aluminum transmission
    After sitting over night @ -3 and windchill of -23 it was a thick paste the very slowly sludged out

    So increased pressure inside the transmission in theory if it's trying to force that same fluid until it warms up and thins back out. Could easily lead to issues overworking or lack of fluid where needed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Double R Diesel View Post
    Have I not been preaching this!? Locked shifts have their place...and it does feel great in the seat provided nothing breaks. Folks need to understand lock shifts can break stock parts and even billet parts too!

    Actually we plan to offer locked shifts in the future BUT we will make sure the customer will understand the risk when we do.

    Ray

    Owner and Calibration Specialist
    Double R Diesel
    www.doublerdiesel.com
    info@doublerdiesel.com
    Totally agree! If you want to play you gotta pay. As soon as you start modifying your stuff and how it operates your risk of breaking increases. Some things increase that possibility significantly more than others.

    And sign me up for locked shifts when they are available!

    What would be super awesome is if you could real time transmission only parameters. Something like manually controlling lock up through the tuner instead of a switch. Or just switch between more or less aggressive shift options without a retune. Not sure how that would work with adaptive learning though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Double R Diesel View Post
    Have I not been preaching this!? Locked shifts have their place...and it does feel great in the seat provided nothing breaks. Folks need to understand lock shifts can break stock parts and even billet parts too!

    Actually we plan to offer locked shifts in the future BUT we will make sure the customer will understand the risk when we do.

    Ray

    Owner and Calibration Specialist
    Double R Diesel
    www.doublerdiesel.com
    info@doublerdiesel.com
    Once again Ray is right on time and always on point with answers and info

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    Re: Transmission Failures..... I’m Seeing a Trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Double R Diesel View Post
    Have I not been preaching this!? Locked shifts have their place...and it does feel great in the seat provided nothing breaks. Folks need to understand lock shifts can break stock parts and even billet parts too!

    Actually we plan to offer locked shifts in the future BUT we will make sure the customer will understand the risk when we do.

    Ray

    Owner and Calibration Specialist
    Double R Diesel
    www.doublerdiesel.com
    info@doublerdiesel.com
    I say the same thing about extreme shift kits


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    50 HP tips, upgrade to 351 turbo, 3.42 gears, Twin air compressors, air bags, Remote dual oil filters, Hellwig sway bar, Front Winch. Home made Fuel Heater, BD Exhaust brake with Torque Lock. Tons of TLC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisenheimer View Post
    Totally agree! If you want to play you gotta pay. As soon as you start modifying your stuff and how it operates your risk of breaking increases. Some things increase that possibility significantly more than others.

    And sign me up for locked shifts when they are available!

    What would be super awesome is if you could real time transmission only parameters. Something like manually controlling lock up through the tuner instead of a switch. Or just switch between more or less aggressive shift options without a retune. Not sure how that would work with adaptive learning though.


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    That's something that Spartan does on the Fords. Not real time tuning though. You can change from early or late lock
    The Dodge and Fords are totally different transmissions though how they're controlled internally


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